What I told the actors is that we need all the chapters, what’s inside of birth, the ups and downs through all the stages. We discussed this very carefully with Vanessa and Shia, especially with Vanessa. I said, “What the audience has to get out of the stage is to feel you. Feel and don’t understand yourself, feel and feel your love for the one who isn’t here yet, and that. That’s the main thing. So give me the most physical performance possible and give me the most emotional performance possible. ”Because that’s the ultimate choice, to be connected. As a filmmaker, I truly believe that your emotional intelligence is above your intellectual intelligence. And if you can activate your emotional intelligence, the film lands in a more honest place. I love Ophüls and Fassbender films and have been inspired by them. And that’s why I needed Vanessa to give an emotional performance. But it really resonated with her, too.
How did Martin Scorsese get involved?
KM: He crossed [score composer] Howard Shore. He asked me this, as they have worked together several times, I would be happy if he shared the film with Martin Scorsese. And I was like, “Sure! Don’t even ask me! I would very much appreciate him watching.”
And a few weeks later Marty Scorsese called me and said the movie was amazing and “How can I help?” And I was like, “Excuse me, who’s talking?” You know, like crazy. And of course, I was more than happy. And he used this phrase, which was very important to me: “It’s more of an experience than a movie.” It’s an amazing compliment to me as I really would like to convey that kind of feeling of film experience. The team decided that Martin’s best help would be if he became a member of the team, and we’re very, very proud that he got that, and then he spent his post-production time with us.
The shoot must have been very emotional for both of you. Was it also cathartic? Did you feel that you had progressed emotionally to get there?
KW: Yeah, for us it was kind of like breaking the silence on something we couldn’t really talk about. But it wasn’t obvious from the first moment. So as a couple we share a miscarriage experience, which is a far cry from what you see in the movie, but at the same time, we have also experienced a certain type of isolation in our relationship. So, I think that’s one of the reasons I didn’t want to write about this topic because I felt it would be a very dark place to go where I didn’t necessarily want to be. But during the writing process, and then really with the shoot, sharing this thing and this topic with others really helped. And it’s also something to understand that once you break the silence on a taboo, you can make new connections, and with other people you kind of go through a healing process, which you don’t. wouldn’t necessarily be able to do this on your own. So I think for us it was kind of an experience. I didn’t realize until the end how useful it was.
KM: Absolutely. Especially since we premiered Netflix. An insane amount of letters to come. Amazing how many mail or Facebook messages from all over the world. And it’s very surprising and very encouraging at the same time that you feel like, wow, it’s so important to them, but not like a movie, but like an experience. And it is an incredible power.
“Pieces of a Woman” is now on Netflix. To read Monica Castillo’s review of the film, click here.