Chris Rock and Nicole Kidman Rate the artists who inspired them.
Variety is doing an excellent series called “Actors on Actors” in which two famous people zoom in and talk about Hollywood. I really enjoyed this series, and there is something valuable to learn from each conversation. In one of their most recent issues, Chris Rock and Nicole Kidman sit down for a chat.
Topics range from risk taking to TV versus film to other great artists like Aaron Sorkin. I loved a Kidman quote about taking risks in their career.
She said, “I have a feeling that people who are incredibly critical actually have a very difficult time to do something. You are deeply critical of everything; You set the bar so high – you will never achieve it yourself. And I have such friends who analyze, destroy, destroy and like very few things … to do very little.”
Check out the whole conversation below.
They also discussed Kidman’s new film, the Sorkin film Be the Ricardoswho follows Lucille Ball and Desi Arnaz in creating their landmark TV show, I love lucy.
Talking about Ball, Kidman said, “She was a trailblazer. She started her production company. Desi was Cuban and she had to fight to get him on the show. They just had so many things in their marriage that are so relevant today, and what they have to do with everything that artists do, where you go up against big corporations. And you think: ‘No, that’s art.’ ”
Rock listened to this thoughtfully, then talked about his own upbringing and the women in his life who helped shape his career. People like his mom and then comedy bookers who believed in him and other comedians who taught him.
Rock said: “When I started out as a comedian, Joy Behar and Susie Essman took me under their wing. I was just always around these powerful women. I mean, even in comedy, the clubs were run by women. “
In addition, Rock talked about how he was one Politics on the set, saying “I fired people because they couldn’t listen to a woman. I thought, ‘How come he doesn’t …?’ And then I realize: ‘Oh’. “
Rock later expanded on that idea, saying, “Let’s not downplay the fact [of] how hard it must have been to be a woman at the time. Not him. I’m the boss. ‘”He added: “Everyone is talking about Stand-up being a boys’ club, but Stand-up has been run by many women for many years. It’s Estee now, too [Adoram] at the Comedy Cellar in New York. Many powerful women who were in charge. ”
This deep respect that the actors had for one another and for the women in their lives and for the pioneers in Hollywood was palpable. I found the whole conversation really enlightening for her career and made her the people sitting in front of us today.
What did you take away from the conversation?
Let me know in the comments.